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Drs. Silvia Berendt and Astrid Stuckelberger: GAVI, Gates, the WHO and International Health Regulations

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Dr. Silvia Berendt and Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger gave their testimonies to the Grand Jury Proceeding by the PeoplesĀ“ Court of Public Opinion.  They covered the International Health Regulations (ā€œIHRā€), public health emergency of international concern (ā€œPHEICā€), the pandemic treaty, public/private partnerships (in particular GAVI), the Global Health Security Agenda, the Intergovernmental Negotiating Body, and the military aspects included in ā€œthe agenda.ā€

Dr. Berendt, an Austrian lawyer, is currently director of the Global Health Responsibility Agency (GHRA), Austria and former legal consultant to IHR Secretariat at WHO.

Dr. StuckelbergerĀ is a scientist, researcher, international health expert and author.Ā  As a writer she has published 12 books, contributed to several WHO books and more than 180 scientific articles, policy papers, governmental, EU or UN reports.

ā€œAll health measures recommended and required by national health authorities or WHO are actually contrary to the epidemiological and medical state of the art. And this is so on purpose ā€¦ I consider it crucial to provide a short, historic analysis of this concept in order to understand why the current global health crisis we face is not about medical science and health,ā€ Dr Berendt began.

ā€œThe most important milestone in the revision process of the International Health Regulations, which is an international treaty, was the outbreak of the severe acute respiratory syndrome, abbreviated as SARS as we all know, in 2002, which was accompanied by an alerted media attention that was not proportionate to the threat of the disease, which was remarkably low ā€¦ the legal dimension of the global health security concept was eventually successfully integrated into International Health Regulations in 2005.

ā€œAs a second step, I would like to explain in more detail why the small number of atypical pneumonia cases of Wuhan in late 2019 and in the first days of 2020 were reported to WHO and soon ended up as a public health emergency of international concern, and soon later as a pandemic. This is all due to the International Health Regulations and the revision thereof.ā€

After describing the events of the first few days leading up to the declaration of a ā€œpandemic,ā€ Dr. Berendt explained how, according to documentation, Professor Drosten had delivered his PCR test kit to the World Health Organisation and through the use of his new test, all of a sudden, there were 14 times the number of Covid cases that existed than before his test was used.

ā€œThere is really a plan since 2000, even maybe before 1999, there is a plan that you can see chronologically with events that is mounting up GAVI from Vaccine Alliance in UNICEF to start joining the United Nation, not only with UNICEF, but with the World Bank and WHO ā€“ through financing of this IFFM, International Financing Facility Immunisation ā€“ so they that the trio, the triad, in 2006 they started, and at the same time GAVI started to be a global alliance in Switzerland as a foundation. So, they registered in 2006 at the same time as they did a triad, a tripartite agreement, between World Bank, WHO and GAVI to get financing from the member States,ā€ Dr. Stuckelberger explained.

ā€œIn 2006, the IHR started to be in the implementation phase ā€¦ in 2009, [Bill Gates] registered as an international organisation in Switzerland of a new type ā€¦ it was created specifically for Mr. Bill Gates, this international organisation with total immunity [for GAVI] ā€¦ And from then on, he started ā€¦ [for example,] they created a decade, 2010-2020, of the Vaccine Decade.ā€

Below is the video of Drs. Stuckelberger and Berendtā€™s testimonies and the transcripts.

Click on the image below to watch theĀ video on Bitchute.

Further Resources

Watch the full Grand Jury sessions Days 1-3 on Odysee HERE or on Internet Archive, with chapters and timestamps, Day 1Day 2 and Day 3.

Logistic support is provided to the proceedings by the Berlin Corona Investigative Committee: website (German) or website (English).

More information about the proceedings and contact details can be found on the Grand Juryā€™s website, HERE.

Transcript Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger and Dr. Silvia

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Reiner Fuellmich: Now, let us talk to Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger and Dr. Silvia Berendt, both of whom work for the World Health Organization. Whoā€™s going to go first?

Silvia Berendt:  I think itā€™s me.

Reiner Fuellmich: Okay.

Silvia Berendt: And then Astrid will go on.

Reiner Fuellmich: All right.

Silvia Berendt: Thank you very much.

My credentials are I have received my PhD from the University of St. Gallen, Switzerland, on the topic of the international health regulations and the Executive Authority of the World Health Organisation during public health emergencies of international concern, very long title, and I was a visiting researcher at Georgetown Law, under Professor Gostin, funded by the Swiss National Fund. Later, I collaborated with the International Health Regulations Secretariat in Geneva at the World Health Organisation and conducted WHO country missions for the purpose of national implementation of the International Health Regulations.

The other experts that were providing the expertise. The last we heard from Mr. Bush was speaking about financial [ ], political and security issues, particularly under the paradigm of bioterrorism that provide evidence that there is a path that led to the current Covid-19 pandemic. I would like to focus the attention to the fact that we are currently not confronted with a medical endemic response.

Most of the criticism raised by the scientists and doctors center around the issue that, from a pure medical perspective, all health measures recommended and required by national health authorities or WHO are actually contrary to the epidemiological and medical state of the art. And this is so on purpose, I contend, because the underlying concept used for Covid-19 does not follow established scientific principles, but rather a different ideology which is framed as ā€œglobal health securityā€ and means to treat health as a national security issue, requiring national and global States of exceptions to deal with it.

Therefore, I consider it crucial to provide a short, historic analysis of this concept in order to understand why the current global health crisis we face is not about medical science and health in the common sense we would expect.

So, the progressive replacement of medical with political aims started in the context of emerging infectious diseases in the early 1990s and originated, actually, from the US, as we already heard. Within a short period of time, WHO institutionalised this new approach by the rapid setup of an entirely new division called Emerging and Other Communicable Diseases. And, interestingly, they didnā€™t engage the staff of the Communicable Disease Control Department at that time.

This policy confirmed that the new paradigm shift from lowering the incidence of regional endemic diseases was to the sole focus on preventing the international spread in real time, and most preferably within a 24-hour time frame. So, there was a need for additional [credible] apparatus of surveillance networks that were capable to deal with these new threats.

So, consequently, in 2001 there was a resolution of the Votels Assembly thatā€™s already inserted this notable concept and calls for the first time to find a definition for a public health emergency of international concern for the purpose of revising the outdated sanitary laws called International Health Regulations, because nobody was interested in sanitary laws at that time.

The problem was they had a very narrow scope and applicability only for yellow fever, black [fever] and cholera. So, at the same time, particularly in the US, bioterrorist scenario planning, weā€™ve already heard a lot about it, within the military and at the academic level with the most prominent exercise like Dark Winter was launched. And, interestingly, all those events ā€œwent realā€ shortly after that.

What is also very interesting, and we did not hear, is that not only the exercises were held, which turned into reality also the legislation in the US was prepared to curtail civil liberties for the fight against bioterrorism from 1990 onwards. This undertaking was started by the CDC and eventually finalised by professors from Georgetown University, like Professor Gostin, together with Johns Hopkins University, and it was called the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act. This Model Act has been sharply criticised at the time in the US for transforming governors into dictators, but was used over many States, eventually.

So, the most important milestone in the revision process of the International Health Regulations, which is an international treaty, was the outbreak of the severe acute respiratory syndrome, abbreviated as SARS as we all know, in 2002, which was accompanied by an alerted media attention that was not proportionate to the threat of the disease, which was remarkably low.

In addition, there was a quazi-consensus in the scientists that the novel SARS outbreak could have had a bioterrorist potential. This political bioterrorist framing of the SARS outbreak led to the agreement of the international community that the old secondary laws needed to be rewritten to include bioterrorism without naming this goal officially at WHO. This came under the [paradigm] of an open all hazards approach, which means that not only various sources of risks are included, but also that any intentional release would come at the [paradigm] of the WHO, and that the IHR needed to be revised.

So, the legal dimension of the global health security concept was eventually successfully integrated into International Health Regulations in 2005, and thus the US model of public health emergencies has been exported to the international community and itā€™s now merged international constitutions which have never having such constitutional emergency provisions.

Then the outdated IHR provisions of disease containment were replaced to include pathogens that pose a threat to national security and require an emergency regime that enables the irrigation of legal standards not only in terms of medical safety regulations, but also in terms of fundamental standards, not freedoms and civil rights.

According to this new paradigm, endemic diseases which count for the most death do not fall under the attention of this global set of rules ā€“ which are now the standard procedure for pandemics ā€“ but only newly identified pathogens without medical treatment that therefore require an emergency licensing, as the substances are all unlicensed.

In addition, the importance of diagnostics emerged under the global health security ideology as a new priority issue because the threat needs to be identified as ā€œthreatening prior to devastating effectsā€ according to this ideology. So, the availability of diagnostics is labelled as necessary requirements for pandemic preparedness and response.

So, I hope you can follow.

Moreover, under the threat of bioterrorism, the establishment of laboratories boosted throughout the world, as Mr. Bush already explained to us. Because biological weapons are defined as weapons of mass destruction and constitute a crime under international law, the only legal pathway to lawfully undertake research and medical treatment is called ā€œbiodefence,ā€ which takes place in laboratories, as we learned.

I would like to remind that all SARS coronaviruses come under the US Category C of potential bioterrorist agents and also classified under the expert regime of the EU for dual use. That refers to the potential of civil and military use.

So, I hope now that the picture becomes a bit clearer by some historic knowledge thatā€™s needed to understand why WHO and the global community do not address SARS-CoV-2 in accordance with the state of the art of medical knowledge, but rather fight the virus as a threat to the nation in an unprofessional manner with military, instead of medical terminology referred to, as medical and non-medical countermeasures. And throughout all health ministries in the world new departments are established called National Health Security departments.

So, this was part one of my kind of expertise. If you have questions, because then I would like to explain how all those newly identified diseases came to WHO. Or should I just go forward? Okay, if you have no questions.

As a second step, I would like to explain in more detail why the small number of atypical pneumonia cases of Wuhan in late 2019 and in the first days of 2020 were reported to WHO and soon ended up as a public health emergency of international concern, and soon later as a pandemic.

This is all due to the International Health Regulations and the revision thereof. Also, the IHR, referred to as IHR, include an all-hazards approach. Some pathogens, like any novel strain of an influenza subtype or any SARS coronavirus are still prioritised and have to be reported within a 24-hour time limit to WHO.

The identification of this novel virus was possible because China has a very tight screening regime for respiratory diseases since the SARS outbreak in 2002. As such, it was possible for China to identify this novel pathogen. Already, on the 1 January, WHO requested more information about the outbreak due to information by [day 1].

On the 3 January, China notified WHO, officially, of a cluster of 44 patients, of which eleven were severely ill with pneumonia of unknown etymology after the WHO ..

Reiner Fuellmich: That does not sound like a pandemic.

Silvia Berendt: Yeah, thatā€™s true.

ā€¦ after the WHO already requested more information and there was the closure of the Wuhan market. So, this politicisation and interest of WHO at this very early stage, at the 1 January, when only 44 people had this atypical pneumonia and eleven people suffered severely from this atypical pneumonia, is indeed an interesting aspect that should lead to some precautions about how the entire crisis started, as there were no deaths reported and no international cases, and the potential of human-to-human transmission was not assessed at that time.

In the meantime, the novel virus was identified as the SARS coronavirus. So, this means the identification of this new virus falls under the International Health Regulations that formally requires an automated official report and the Director General is obliged to constitute an Emergency Committee under the IHR once such an official notification has been received. So, heā€™s legally obliged to constitute his Emergency Committee.

Then, now itā€™s becoming interesting, at the same time Professor Drosten and others worked in Germany intensively to deliver to WHO diagnostic test assay via the PCR method for this novel virus. And Professor Drosten was also the lead author in 2003, when the novel SARS coronavirus was identified and since then nominated as WHO expert.

His first protocol was officially delivered to WHO on the 13 January 2020, which implied that he had, of course, worked prior to the state of submission, and WHO immediately collected his first protocol of this assay to its member States. Later, this assay was revised and finally published in the Euro Surveillance journal on the 23 January.

He also contributed to the WHO interim guidance dated on the 10 January, and this interim guidance was published ā€“ you can have more information if you want to later, but itā€™s getting complicated otherwise ā€“ this information guidance was published as a part of a comprehensive package of about ten guidance documents of WHO for countries covering topics related to the management of an outbreak of the new coronavirus disease. So, on the 10 January, WHO had a comprehensive package already published.

Reiner Fuellmich: At that time when there were literally no cases except for the 44 cases?

Silvia Berendt: Yes. And these were getting officially. And it normally takes a very long time at WHO to get something published because it has to be cleared.

Importantly, as any SARS coronavirus requires an official notification under the IHR, the Director General had to convene a Covid-19 Emergency Committee as a legal obligation under IHR. You can find, on the WHO website, the experts who are on this committee, and you can find their CVs there.

This Emergency Committee advises the Director General in the proclamation whenever a public health emergency of international concern exists, which is an executive authority of the Director General in accordance with the legal principles set out under the IHR.

The first meeting was held on the 22 January, where the experts found no agreement whether a PHEIC, thatā€™s the abbreviation of Public Health Emergency of International Concern which WHO uses. ā€“ so, if PHEIC exists or not. And they agreed that there was no international spread of the novel coronavirus outbreak, which was due to 17 deaths and 557 confirmed cases on the 22 January. So, they had an idea, they said: ā€œin ten days, within ten days, they will again meet and consult and assess the current situation of new cases.ā€ Thatā€™s what they did, on the 13 January. And by then the cases have risen from over 500 cases to 14 times higher to 7711 confirmed and even much more 12,167 suspected cases. Thatā€™s all in the statement of the second emergency committee of the WHO official information, you can look up yourself.

Reiner Fuellmich: How are the cases defined? Positive test results?

Silvia Berendt: Well, the case is defined, will have been confirmed by the assay of Professor Drosten because it was an official publication circulated by the 13 January. And it was also worked into the later published interim guidance: laboratory testing of human suspect cases of novel coronavirus.

These documents are still all online at WHO. Because sometimes it could be that they are withdrawn afterwards, but they are still online, it can still be looked up. And itā€™s still all referenced to Drosten and his publication.

Reiner Fuellmich: When was the first emergency meeting and when was the second one again?

Silvia Berendt: The first was on the 22 January. And then they agreed they did not have enough cases because it was only 555 cases or 557 cases. And there was no international spread. And the international spread is a precondition for calling and for defining a public health emergency.

So, they had to wait ten days and then there was a 14-times increase of cases, of course, with the rapid diagnostics ā€“ which was also referenced in the statement that they were very grateful that they were rapid diagnostics ā€“ so they could identify and diagnose this new threat called SARS coronavirus 2.

Reiner Fuellmich: So, what had happened is: Drosten had delivered his test kit to the World Health Organisation and through the use of his new test, all of a sudden, we had 14 times the number of cases that existed before he used his test.

Silvia Berendt: Thatā€™s what the documents say.

Viviane Fischer: I would like to make a remark on this because we have also information from a Freedom of Information Act request that we did with Charity. And it turns out that actually the company TIB Molbiol, which produced the test together with or developed it together with Drosten, the constellation came that, basically, they were doing the logistics, the Charity claimed, and when someone got in touch with Drosten ā€“ and the countries knew that Drosten was the one in charge or had developed this test, like from the information kit that you said that was sent out through the WHO, the test essay ā€¦

Silvia Berendt:The test assay from WHO to the member States, because it was then an official guidance.

Viviane Fischer: But the contact information was to Drosten and TIB Molbiol. So, they knew they could get in touch with them and then TIB Molbiol would do the send out, like for Drosten or for someone else. So, it was basically all in their hands and they could deliver it worldwide. I think it did not go through the WHO itself, but like through this connection of the first mover advantage, basically, of what the tool had developed.

Reiner Fuellmich: What this boils down to is that the cases that they needed in order to declare a public health emergency of international concern came into existence because of the test. Is that correct?

Silvia Berendt:At least, they needed the international transmission and they have to diagnose it. And without diagnostic test, itā€™s not possible. So, the only one who gave this test to say, is in the document referenced as Drosten. Thatā€™s what the documents say.

Reiner Fuellmich: For his test, the WHO ten days later would still have probably had 44 cases or maybe 500 cases, but not 14 times that many.

Silvia Berendt: If there is no test, you cannot qualify as the new virus. Thatā€™s the problem. The really important thing everybody should know is that the proclamation of a public health emergency of international concern because this is connected to vaccine manufacturing, thatā€™s actually the most important thing any legal person or anybody should know. Itā€™s not the pandemic. There is no legal consequence if WHO proclaims or defines a pandemic. Thatā€™s just interesting for the media. But the public health emergency is connected to the regulatory pathway for emergency use authorisation.

Reiner Fuellmich: Without a public health emergency of international concern, there cannot be any use of untested drugs like vaccines.

Silvia Berendt: Right. Because all secondary laws ā€“ like the EU, the FDA, the US ā€“ they use the concept of the public health emergency also proclaimed by WHO.

Reiner Fuellmich: Okay, Virginie wants to ask a question.

Virginie de Araujo Recchia: Yes, Ms. Silvia Berendt. Virginie de Araujo Recchia from France. I would like to confirm with you that Mr. Bill Gates put pressure on the WHO to declare a pandemic and that we know that CharitĆ© Berlin, which is linked with Drosten, has developed these tests with the financing of Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and Wellcome Trust. I donā€™t know if you can confirm that?

Silvia Berendt: Maybe Astrid, I donā€™t know so much about financing. I know more about regulatory issues.

Astrid Stuckelberger: Yeah, itā€™s a good question. What we can confirm, and thatā€™s what I was going to explain to you, is that there is really a plan since 2000, even maybe before 1999, there is a plan that you can see chronologically with events that is mounting up GAVI from Vaccine Alliance in UNICEF to start joining the United Nation, not only with UNICEF, but with the World Bank and WHO ā€“ through financing of this IFFM, International Financing Facility Immunisation ā€“ so they that the trio, the triad, in 2006 they started, and at the same time GAVI started to be a global alliance in Switzerland as a foundation. So, they registered in 2006 at the same time as they did a triad, a tripartite agreement, between World Bank, WHO and GAVI to get financing from the member States. You can find this even on the web.

So that was the first step. And as you know, 2006, the IHR started to be in the implementation phase. And what we can find out is tracking. What heā€™s doing is that he started ā€“ Iā€™ll to jump to the most important ā€“ in 2009, he registered as an international organisation in Switzerland of a new type. And we have a Press release signed by the Swiss government that shows that it was created specifically for Mr. Bill Gates, this international organisation with total immunity. You cannot do anything. You cannot even take him to tribunal. They do their own tribunal if they have any sort of disagreement.

And from then on, he started, and we have the documents in the WHO logo, they have executive boards ā€“ I found out very lately that we can find out everything on the web, so we can find this ā€“ they created a decade, 2010-2020, of the Vaccine Decade. And we did the implementation, IHR implementation, because you had to teach and train the countries to be prepared. And we finished the first round in 2012, from 2009 to 2012. We received with Georgetown University, Pretoria University, and I was with University of Geneva. And at that time, when we stopped around, we got funds again from Japan, and suddenly it stopped. And they said there is no more funds. And we had almost a contract signed. And I found out now that I know why, because in 2012, at the World Health Assembly, they did and they put Bill Gates as the leader of the global vaccine action plan 2012-2020.

So, itā€™s beautifully carved. From then on, he was in the driverā€™s seat and itā€™s mentioned. GAVI is the leader of most of what is concerning vaccines. And itā€™s not only children, like UNICEF, anymore ā€“ itā€™s the whole world.

If thatā€™s enough of a proof, at least that there is a plan. And it keeps on. I mean, he is in the SAGE group, the Strategic Expert Advisory Group. And they did even ā€“ itā€™s very funny, no, itā€™s not funny but ā€“ they even did in 2016 an assessment report of this 2012-2020 Global Vaccine Action Plan, GVAP, and in 2016, they are very upset because they did not immunise the whole world, immunisation is vaccination. And they would take any excuse with vaccination and they donā€™t talk about experimental or validated, itā€™s all vaccine of course. And in 2016, you can really see that theyā€™re not happy. And Mr. GAVI Global is saying that we really have to make an effort. So, they have made a program called the Accelerator program of vaccines.

So, thatā€™s at least some of the steps that you can get. Very clearly, itā€™s all on the web without talking about the financing, which I can talk about too.

Reiner Fuellmich: Who received basically diplomatic immunity in 2009. Was it GAVI or was it Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation? Or was it Bill Gates personally? Or all of them?

Astrid Stuckelberger: No, itā€™s really GAVI Alliance Foundation. But they took away the name ā€œFoundationā€ and in the agreement, itā€™s really GAVI, the Global Alliance for Vaccination. I can find the exact term in my paper, but it concerns really him, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, rather what I find out more and more is that: the financial mechanism of funding or receiving funds for a program. And I found out again that the Swiss government, Swiss Medic, the FDA of Switzerland, had signed an agreement to ā€“ itā€™s in 2020 to 2023 ā€“ to provide to the Bill and Melinda Gates $900,000 in three years. So, $300,000 every year for his program, ā€œproject.ā€ And you cannot see in the paper, you have to go and look at the project. And I did not go, but it concerns the vaccine.

So, Iā€™m suspecting that when we take a model like Switzerland or, like Silvia said about mechanics between the national and international regulation, itā€™s been applied like a model everywhere in the world that the law on epidemics of a national country is binding to International Health Regulations. We found that in Switzerland, even the Constitution of Switzerland, has a little line they have added without asking us, which says that international law supersedes national law in the health matters.

And then you can see that in the law of epidemic that was passed in 2016 ā€“ so probably in all countries we should check and Iā€™m pretty sure we saw that in Canada ā€“ that there is a law of epidemics, a law of emergency law that says to the country they will obey the International Health Regulation. If a PHEIC is declared, public health emergency of international concern, every country has to put and trigger immediately the mechanics of obeying. And thatā€™s what explains why when on 16, 17 March or in this area, the whole world locked down, because this is incomprehensible according to the International Health Regulation. And according to the SARS-CoV-1, it never happened like this, ever. That suddenly the virus was everywhere. Whatā€™s happening with Omicron too ā€“ it starts in South Africa and the next day itā€™s all over the world.

Reiner Fuellmich: Yeah, but is there any ā€“ as far as the international health regulations are concerned, Syria and Astrid ā€“ is there any democratic legitimacy to these International Health Regulations?  Has anyone who has invented these International Health Regulations voted into some office? Is there any democratic legitimacy to this? Or is it just a private enterprise by people who control the World Health Organisation?

Astrid Stuckelberger: I can answer first and then Sylvia can fill in. When we were teaching and training about the International Health Regulations, it was the question that came very often in: how come this is binding to member States?

And, it was extraordinary answer, which will explain to you how important it is to look at this new pandemic treaty, now. Itā€™s that WHO ā€“ I have looked and looked ā€“ it is for the moment the only United Nations specialised program or an agency who has a constitution. So, WHO Constitution, not convention, Constitution Article 21(19),21a and 2, are binding member States directly if they adopt the International Health Regulations.

So, they donā€™t need to go through the whole procedure of a treaty. Thatā€™s why itā€™s very dangerous. This WHO Constitution is like if it was planned to supersede all constitutions of the world. Because why would you use the word ā€œconstitutionā€ and the answers of the lawyers from WHO was always, ā€œoh, we have adopted it at the General Assembly of 2005 under the WHO Constitution, Article 21a and Article 2.

Reiner Fuellmich: Yeah, but the funny thing is, and itā€™s not funny at all, that those people who created the International Health Regulations have not been voted into their, or have no authority. Or is there any connection between the member States people, not their governments, the member States people and these International Health Regulations, or is there only the Constitution which they themselves invented?

Astrid Stuckelberger: Well, let me explain, the mechanics of the United Nations and itā€™s with all the big agencies ā€“ like the International Labour Office, the ITU telecommunication, for the refugee ā€“ every year you have a world assembly, like an NGO, a world health assembly every year takes place in the United Nations in Geneva in May, the third week of May. Where all member States have their little seat and they are all together and they have an agenda and they decide about the agenda of the world together.

But normally, if there is a big decision, they are just children of the United Nations General Assembly. So, they should go up to the General Assembly and it has to get the blessing of the Secretary General, which is the head of the United Nations, which should give a blessing to WHO. I donā€™t see this in the case of International Health Regulation, if thatā€™s a clue.

Silvia Berendt: Well, I just add to this that the International Health Regulations, because we started at 18:15 something some hours ago, and itā€™s a very interesting regime because itā€™s an international treaty that dates back to the sanitary conventions from 1850. So, itā€™s one of the oldest international legal regimes which were taken over to WHO and which were recognised under the WHO Constitution because they already had in mind ā€“ and thatā€™s very true ā€“ they had in mind that they wanted to have a regulatory fast track regime. So, they had this regulatory process that says ā€“ under the regulations for sanitary laws, which is now pandemic loss, you could refer to, you have the member States need to opt out and not opt in. So, by the resolution that is passed, the international treaty has to enter into force in the member state otherwise it has to opt out on purpose. So, itā€™s the reverse process of international law. And thatā€™s a very unique thing. And I think no other international organisation, or Iā€™ve found no other international organisation having this capacity.

But what they did, itā€™s democratic because it was an Intergovernmental negotiation process. And the interesting thing is that only because of the emergence of SARS, they had this new ideology adapted of the ā€œglobal health securityā€ idea that not the endemic diseases are devastating to the people, but only new diseases that have no medical treatment.

So, they inserted this new concept in the old laws that were already existent at WHO and existent in the world. So, they adopted this totally new ideology. And thatā€™s a very striking thing we have now. And itā€™s passed as a resolution. And the interesting thing is itā€™s an international treaty and WHO is not a party, itā€™s only bound by the resolution. Whereas other international treaties, like the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control, the WHO is a signatory. So thatā€™s an international law not a treaty.

Reiner Fuellmich: I still donā€™t understand. I donā€™t see any connection between myself, my countrymen and these International Health Regulations.

Silvia Berendt: Thatā€™s a problem with all international law.

Reiner Fuellmich: Well, not really. I think this is quite unique.

Silvia Berendt:Member States have adopted; member States gave their consent in 2005. They all said they wanted to have this new kind of rules for international law, and now they are obliged to implement it nationally. Or since 2007, it entered into force and they are obliged to implement it. And for example, Austria, Iā€™m from living in Austria, we have no emergency clause in our Constitution and we did not adopt our sanitary laws, our epidemiology laws. There is no clause of emergency, and you still have the same regime.

So thatā€™s what I always say. Whatever legal regime and whatever Constitution countries have, obviously the system can impact any country in any constitutional system and any legal regime, itā€™s possible with or without emergency clauses. They apply emergency rules. Thatā€™s what I can see. At least thatā€™s my opinion.

Astrid Stuckelberger: Itā€™s the same with the Millennium Development Goals and Sustainable Development Goals, which seem to match 2015, 2015 to 2030, the Sustainable Development Goals. Theyā€™re doing a whole mechanism around this, and it becomes more and more obscure. And it is more and more obscure how much us as citizens really decide. And we donā€™t decide anything anymore because it becomes so complex and obscure.

Reiner Fuellmich: We definitely have to take our sovereignty back. That is the conclusion that I draw from this, because even if the EU wants to come up with a new law, for example, they can decide that they want to introduce these laws, but unless the member States ratify it in their own countries, it doesnā€™t become law in their countries. So, this is quite surprising to me, and I think to many lawyers who should know about these things, as well. This is very disturbing, I think.

Silvia Berendt:And in the EU they have created this HERA agency, which is the same, but probably much more coercive. And thatā€™s a huge, huge problem. And they have no authority in health matters, but they still pretend to have it and still create the agencies and instruct on us, without democratic processes.

Reiner Fuellmich: HERA stands for Health Emergency Response Agency, right?

Silvia Berendt: Yes

Reiner Fuellmich: And isnā€™t there a rumour that: if our national member state governments in the EU collapse, then theyā€™re going to take over and under the EU Commission, there will be a kind of a mini world government. Does it sound plausible?

Silvia Berendt:I have no idea, but Iā€™m sure they would love to.

Astrid Stuckelberger: Yeah, thatā€™s the idea of this pandemic treaty. Because this pandemic treaty has articles at the end to say that with the Constitution of WHO we donā€™t need any other constitution as member States. And not only do they diminish the power of member States, which is what is the United Nations, but they have invited a whole lot of non-state actors, they call it ā€“ NGOs, GAVI, inter-governmental, heā€™s an NGO international organisation because he can use many things. Bill and Melinda Gates might be an NGO, and then they make different things. The Rockefeller Foundation, Iā€™ve met them in WHO, they come and sit in meetings and they are NGO, we donā€™t know what they are.

So, the non-state actors are also invited in this new treaty, which would take over literally, through the WHO Constitution ā€“ a world constitution ā€“ because of ā€œpandemic.ā€

Reiner Fuellmich: So ultimately what weā€™re looking at is private associations, private individuals even, taking over our national governments through the World Health Organisation, using health as a crowbar to do whatever they want.

Astrid Stuckelberger:Yeah, we could say that because the public/private partnership has been, you can see it through the financing because, GAVI and private partners have started to invade and interfere the whole United Nations. I actually looked into this because I was called to organise for Switzerland joining the whole United Nations open days for two days etc. And itā€™s not so I learned a lot about an organisation that nobody hears about.

And one is really a private entity called the UN Global Compact. And the United Nations Global Compact is only private sector. And they can, for example, finance ā€¦ I mean, itā€™s open to partnerships.

Silvia Berendt:And just to add on this, also the implementation of the International Health Regulations, itā€™s very strange because itā€™s done by termed external evaluations undertaken by the Global Health Security Agenda. And if you look at the page of the website of the Global Health Security Agenda, it says it has a private consortium and you donā€™t know, you have no information which private consortium this is. But you know that these external evaluators go to Germany, go to every country. Itā€™s even on the website of the RKE and applauding how great it is. But they donā€™t say itā€™s implemented by private entities. You donā€™t know. So, I donā€™t want to have laws implemented by private entities. Thatā€™s absolutely undemocratic. And theyā€™re very proud of it. Theyā€™re very proud of it.

Reiner Fuellmich: Thatā€™s bizarre

Virginie de Araujo Recchia: If I am to understand well, there is private advisers whoā€™re working also with the WHO, like McKenzie, [Censure], they are an arm of the Bill Gates Foundation also?

Astrid Stuckelberger: Yeah, itā€™s a good question. Iā€™ve actually looked for the link McKenzie and WHO, because we know that they are creating the communication. And I think they have been putting it under something theyā€™re setting up now, an inter-governmental panel. What is the exact title? Inter-governmental panel for this treaty for negotiating ā€“ Inter-governmental Negotiating Network, something like that. [intergovernmental negotiating body (INB)]

This is just happening. It just happened at the executive board. So, it is a bit worrying because I think that all those communication agencies are buried into that. Theyā€™re not only one.

Viviane Fischer: So, what is this treaty adding to the situation that we have right now?

Silvia Berendt: Well, the treaty is very mystical. I just heard the Legal Council, the former Legal Council, of WHO speaking about it. Itā€™s available on the internet. And itā€™s very political. Probably the most fierce proponent is Charles Michel. He suggested this treaty, the European Union wants this treaty, the US is kind of a poster. They made a proposal of the it urged to be strengthened.

So, the problem will be a due track world, because if they are rushing into a treaty, only a small number of signatories will sign. And the IHR is a universally acknowledged tool. And we did not mention that it would actually have good aspects in it which are neglected and infringed: it has human rights implementation clause, which is not respected, absolutely violated.

So, there were compromised deals at the end when they passed through the resolution. But itā€™s just that they are not mentioned and nobody gets no court which would find a violation of this.

So, the problem is what they would like to do is to have an upstream and a downstream pharmaceutical industry, probably. Because itā€™s not even clear the scope of the treaty, not even this is clear. The only thing is that thereā€™s a lot of communication about it. The Director General is a very huge proponent of this treaty because heā€™s very political, in a way. And its very strange what kind of intentions are behind that.

And itā€™s called for ā€œpreparedness and response.ā€ So, what we know is that they invented a new procedure, which is also problematic. Itā€™s called WHO Emergency Use Authorisation. Thatā€™s where huge company, Big Pharma, can go to WHO say, ā€œIā€™m inventing a new pharmaceutical or new diagnostic set for this kind of disease, for this public health emergency. And we would like that you put it on our list,ā€ and then who puts it on the list and has a disclaimer ā€“ disclaiming that thereā€™s no warranty and no endorsement of WHO, and if somebody dies, itā€™s not WHOā€™s fault, itā€™s only a list.

And then GAVI takes this list and says, ā€œoh, we can export it to the entire world. Even if we donā€™t have stringent and very competent medical authorities. We have this listing of WHO and now we can contribute it to the goal.ā€ Thatā€™s what they do in the treaties of GAVI and this vaccine alliance, this COVAX facility itā€™s called, the third pylon of the act accelerator.

They probably would like to find better regulatory ways that it becomes a normal process, that Big Pharma goes to an international organisation but then actually itā€™s a treaty of private international law, not of public international law. Because the problem of customer international law is not recognised, itā€™s [ ] ā€“ that means itā€™s a norm which you cannot derogate from, that there are no medical treatments whatsoever without your consent. So, yeah, itā€™s a huge problem.

Reiner Fuellmich: So, weā€™ve learned tonight, from all of the other experts ā€“ including, of course, the three experts who testified at the beginning of this session ā€“ that, for example, in the UK, healthcare has been largely privatised. Itā€™s being controlled by private groups, private charities, even. Weā€™ve learned that through this privatised, even their psychiatric system has been privatised. There are private people behind all of this and this is how they control everything. They even create their own future leaders next to what the World Economic Forum is doing, meaning they have their own people who they then seem to be telling what to do in positions of power in the government.

Now, if I look at the who, thereā€™s a man by the name of Tedros, heā€™s the Director General. Who is he? I have read in the papers that in his own country a criminal complaint has been filed against him for genocide. Is that the typical, letā€™s say, puppet that the private entities who are running the healthcare show are using in order to further their aims?

Astrid Stuckelberger: No, I must say Iā€™ve never seen Director General like that. Iā€™ve known many. But I know also from inside that the staff was very unhappy with him and they asked for his resignation. And of course, it never happened.

Another scoop, if I did not say this already, is that on the board of GAVI Foundation, you can see the names of people who have been part of GAVI. Well, Tedros has been part of GAVI before he was the elected Director General. Conflict of interest. So, he was on the board between, I wrote it here, 22 January 2009 and September 2011.

Thatā€™s one of them and the other person with conflict of interest, the President of Ireland, who was at the head of the Human Rights Commission. And I know her, but Iā€™m very surprised that she was there with President with signature even of GAVI from November 2008 to September 2011. I can give you the paper. Itā€™s no problem. Itā€™s very precise: 25 November 2008 to the 14 September 2011.

There are many names that I donā€™t know, and Iā€™m sure you will find there are many names that you can maybe find in your countries too, because there are countries representatives that are in GAVI before they were even in position.

So, itā€™s clear that he [Tedros] was already entangled with Bill Gates.

Reiner Fuellmich: So, wherever you look, you see conflicts of interest. Debbie and Ana have their hands up.

Ana Garner: Yes, I checked to see which countries are members of the WHO. I see many, many. In fact, I donā€™t see any I donā€™t recognise ā€“ 194. Are there any countries that are not members of WHO?

Astrid Stuckelberger:At the moment, I think the US? Oh no, they came back, okay.

Now the Vatican is an observer in the United Nations, as you might know or not, and thatā€™s also a topic I wanted to talk about. When you talk about values, religion, PSYOP. Theyā€™re observers and theyā€™re everywhere. The other religions are in general at the World Council of Churches, right in front of the big building that Bill Gates has been building with our Swiss money in three years. I mean, you have to know this.

That was the question. So, I answered, right?

Ana Garner: So, there are no countries that are not members. The Vatican might be an observer, but itā€™s not a member.

Astrid Stuckelberger: I donā€™t know of any. Sylvia, would you say even though there was 196? Youā€™re muted Sylvia.

Silvia Berendt:So, itā€™s 196 to the International Health Regulations because the Vatican and Lichtenstein, they are not WHO members, but they are signatory to the International Health Regulations.

Reiner Fuellmich: Debbie has her hand up.

Astrid Stuckelberger:I would just want to add something that might be interesting. legally. There are, in the annex in the notes at the end of this International Health regulation of 2005, two countries who made reservations that they donā€™t agree with that completely because they want to apply their global security nationally. And you would guess who it is. Itā€™s the US and Iran.

So, itā€™s interesting to see that two countries have managed to put a reservation to this. How come the others havenā€™t?

Reiner Fuellmich: Itā€™s because their people havenā€™t spoken. But they will. Debbie?

Debbie Evans: Thank you. I just wanted to mention very quickly when you mentioned about the UK, weā€™ve also got a serious issue going on here with the unvaccinated in that anybody that seems to be admitted to hospital with a Covid-19 positive would appear to be put on an end-of-life, accelerated end of life care plan. And patients seem to be given midazolam and morphine. And this is without their consent. This is without their familiesā€™ consent. These decisions are made by the clinicians alone. And the families and the patient doesnā€™t have any say in it at all.

So, I just want to be sure to include the victims of this absolute disaster that are unvaccinated. And also, just to bring your attention to CEPI. CEPI was founded in 2017 and CEPI and GAVI worked very closely together, in fact, financially very closely together. And when CEPI was launched in 2017, Bill Gates at the World Economic Forum launch said that basically they would be cutting out the safety with regards to clinical trials. And he said it straight out and it was actually featured on UK Column news. But Bill Gates said that the safety data and manufacturing would be cut out, which would enable the 100-day mission to go ahead to have vaccines rolled out within 100 days of the World Health Organisation declaring a pandemic. So, I just wanted to mention that.

And also, with regards to Whitney earlier talking about DARPA, we have our very own kind of diluted DARPA, if you like. We have ARPA, but we also have Wellcome Leap, which Whitney has got a lot of information about when it comes to bioweapons and making biochemicals.

And also, I just want to go back to the patent as well, because the Rothschildā€™s patent of 2015, if you look at the full paper, everything that weā€™re seeing today was put into that and it was approved in 2020, but it was given priority in 2015. So, it was written in 2015. And what weā€™re seeing now is everything within that patent. So that together with SPARS pandemic ā€“ and SPARS pandemic 2025 ā€“ 2028 was a coronavirus, and some of the names are the same as in the John Hopkins futuristic scenario, like CoraVax. So, thereā€™s an awful lot of similarities there. And I know that youā€™ve been talking about Lock Step, but I just want to just re-remind people that SPARS Pandemic 2025 ā€“ 2028 gives a month-by-month breakdown. And if you look at when we first started in the March, when we have the first case in our country anyway, or in December in Wuhan, it literally goes month-by-month.

So, the prediction going forward would appear to be antimicrobial resistance, which is already what is written in SPARS. And weā€™re finding many people in this country not being able to access antibiotics and GPs and physicians here not wanting to give antibiotics. So, I just wanted to throw that in. Thank you.

Reiner Fuellmich: So, we do have lots of reason to worry about our sovereignty. Not the least of one is the World Health Organizationā€™s International Health Regulations. That seems to be the overarching theme. This is how through their Constitution and through the Cravat revised international health regulations, they seem to be trying to gain control over the rest of the world, including, of course, all the member, the 196 member States. Is this a correct assessment?

Silvia Berendt: Yeah, at least I think, because in the first part of my expertise is trust that the military aspects were included in this agenda but were not named. So thatā€™s the reason why we have now kind of ā€œpandemicā€ response, which is not medical, which is unproportionate and political and we do not realise it.

Because they included this bioterrorist scenario and they adapted the language to global health security ā€“ thatā€™s also the Center for Civilian Biodefence. Also, at the time of Dark Winter, it was called Johns Hopkins Global Health Security Center, was called Center for Civilian Biodefence, I think was the correct name. And they had also a Journal called Bioterrorism or Biodefense, and now itā€™s called Global Health Security. So, we should not forget about that a bio war could go on, at least, so itā€™s much more political, as the politicians would themselves agree.

Astrid Stuckelberger: I will add two points.

One, we should worry about the whole United Nations because the Sustainable Development Goals are 17 goals and 169 targets. Itā€™s the Agenda 2030, and it is all entangled, especially with the climate change, for example. But there are many other mechanisms under that have to be looked at such as the UN alliance for SDG Financing. What is this? When you dig, you find a lot of things very mysterious that we have to find out.

But the other one that might interest you is, remember that pandemic or public health emergency of international concern has four typologies. I was taking care of the case studies and it was very important to distinguish and thatā€™s what we should do with whatā€™s going on now because weā€™re all focused on the biological factor. But in fact, the first one is infections biology. The second is food-borne biology. And thereā€™s a whole organisation behind called INFOSAN. The third is chemical, and chemical is mercury, it can be metal, et cetera. And there was one expert [Kasten Gutschmit], a German that I was inviting and he was always making very great reports but very difficult to find the experts there. And the fourth, which is very important and you will see why is radio nuclear radiation and thatā€™s even more difficult to find experts. And I realise this because in our courses we were inviting people who are taking care of this. It is the International Atomic Energy Agency based in Vienna and they are experts on radio, nuclear, Chernobyl, Fukushima. They are the first in line there.

And what I was shocked about is when we were doing the case studies of Fukushima, we asked them what did WHO do? And they said ā€œno, WHO was not allowed to access Fukushima.ā€ They were refused the visa because the first one to be there is the IAEA, International Atomic Energy Agency. And what is very strange is that they have an agreement, a written statement which gives them power over WHO.

I went to look at what theyā€™re doing now with Covid, just today. So, Iā€™m very happy to tell you or very scared to tell you, that they are in charge of the RT-PCR kit. Itā€™s a question and actually to know just before I say how they have presented this, is they are independent from the United Nations, they have their own international treaty and they report to the UN General Assembly and to the Social Security Council every year. So, this is for nukes, itā€™s for radio nuclear threat, which could kill the whole planet.

So, they say that the IAEA has developed a nuclear derived diagnostic technology that can help detect and identify Covid or anything else in ours, in humans and in animals, because animals is treated by veterinary and by FAO, the Food Administration Organisation. And they have developed this test. And this test is very efficient, the RT-PCR, because itā€™s polymerized chain reaction and rapid test and they think they are the experts, especially for Ebola, Zika and the African swine fever virus. So, this is just today I read this, and for me it rings a bell because they are offering now the test kit, a PCR test kit and their lab.

So, theyā€™re linked to labs and we were talking thatā€™s where the power lies. And I think thatā€™s where things have to be, I think, looked at closer. I donā€™t know what you think but thatā€™s a bit worrying.

Reiner Fuellmich: You mean other private organizations, or half-private or, most of these organisations which we spoke about tonight, pretty much all of the international organisations are more or less controlled by private citizens, by private groups, charities, et cetera. So, this harkens back to the theme which we heard about first today about how the City of London, basically, big finance is controlling everything through their emissaries. Theyā€™re private people trying to gain control over the rest of the world. Again, we have to take back our sovereignty. That is what all of this tells me right now. And also, we have to take a much closer look at PCR testing, which we will do tomorrow and tomorrowā€™s session.

Astrid Stuckelberger: And maybe also look at all the NGOs, because in WHO thereā€™s the World Alliance of Hospitals, the World Alliance of, the alliances, of alliances. And a lot of British people are in charge. And you have to also know that a lot of militaries are there because the CDC in the US was formerly military. And I think it still is, by the way. I think disentangle those WANGO, itā€™s the world NGOs or the Bingo, the business and industry NGOs because there are the mechanics, where itā€™s very difficult to find them, and they have a lot of power more than we think.

Reiner Fuellmich: The people have to learn that they have to disconnect and look, start grassroots democracy, look into their regions and their communities. They know best whatā€™s good for them. It is very late already. I know that Dipali is a few hours ahead of us, three or 4 hours, right? Deepali?

Dipali Ojha: Yes, four and a half.

Reiner Fuellmich: Oh, my God. Itā€™s been a very long day. And unless there are any further questions, I think we should close this session for tonight. Yes, go ahead, Dexter, please.

Dexter L-J. Ryneveldt: I just want to talk about, Doctor Silvia, you were mentioning global security. And I would like you to perhaps maybe just put it in perspective when it comes to the definition changes from the World Health Organisation in 2009.

Silvia Berendt: Well, you mean that you refer to the ā€œpandemic criteriaā€?

Dexter L-J. Ryneveldt: Thatā€™s correct, thank you.

Silvia Berendt:Well, my personal view is that they just realised, WHO realised they donā€™t need a pandemic definition anymore because everything that is needed is a PHEIC, a public health emergency of international concern, because they want to manufacture vaccines. And it doesnā€™t matter how the pandemic is defined in non-legal documents. So, they actually alleviated the very high threshold because they realised, they can, at any time, make a public health emergency as long as there is international spread and as long as they have diagnostics. So, they focused no attention to this theme, I think, and thatā€™s our problem. And also, the lawyers always looking for this pandemic definition, but there are no legal consequences linked to the definition of a pandemic. But thereā€™s a huge legal consequence if you proclaim, if the Director General takes his authority and proclaims the public health emergency of international concern.

Dexter L-J. Ryneveldt: Thank you very much.

Virginie de Araujo Recchia: Does it explain, perhaps, why they use the models of Sir Ferguson to increase the fear and explain that there is a pandemic? Because with the epidemiology and mathematics that they use and that is not useful, itā€™s wrongly used to study the spread of the virus. They use this synthetic information from these models perhaps? Because it seems very strange that they use the models of Sir Ferguson that doesnā€™t work at all. And that was these models were duplicated in other countries, like in France, for example. And we took this for granted. And itā€™s not based on experience and medicine at all, itā€™s only mathematics ā€“ we canā€™t use that at all. But I would like to know if itā€™s for this reason that we use these models to increase the fear of the pandemic and to mass manipulate.

Silvia Berendt: I donā€™t know any specifics about it because actually they had everything, they needed to proclaim a public health emergency. And the national governments needed to the population that they would go along, I guess, so they needed it for the population because there was also the first PHEIC declared in 2009 where the vaccines were manufactured but nobody was threatened, at least I was not threatened by this PHEIC, because there were no media releases that threatened us. But now they needed the population to stay at home during the lockdowns and to get the vaccine in the end. Thatā€™s my personal explanation, Astrid. I donā€™t know.

Virginie de Araujo Recchia: Yes, because from the model of Sir Ferguson, the only solution was the vaccine and no treatment at all, only vaccines.

Astrid Stuckelberger:But I could just add that there are many definitions, scientific definitions they have changed not only ā€œpandemic.ā€ They have changed the definition of ā€œhealth professionals,ā€ itā€™s everybody. They have changed ā€œdata privacy,ā€ there is no data privacy anymore. They have not made ethics, for example, in communication in the International Health Regulations implementation course ā€“ and you have to do it, itā€™s to reassure people that ā€œwe donā€™t know, we are looking for something, you will know what is going onā€ and step by step you keep people informed. And there it was fear right away.

Not only this was a psychological operation for that fear, that constant fear with cases, with images, with deaths ā€“ that were not deaths, because we know today there is not more mortality in 2020 ā€“ but also with contradictions, that we said before. And this is in Melanie Klein psychology. You make psychotic people and children when you say I love you but I hate you, and you push or you say I love you and I hate you at the same time with behaviour. So, they made a very crazy nonsense of coherence, no control, no sense of control. Itā€™s also another concept in psychology. And they make people totally insecure, which diminishes their immunity, by the way.

What they also did psychologically, they took away all the religions and all the belief system. And this is something that keeps people up and they censored religion, they censored death. They forbid the ritual of death, which is one of the most important rituals if you want to have a good grief, development, coherence and healing.

So, there are many things they have done, not just this manipulation, I donā€™t know Sir Ferguson, but ..

I think I could just add one more. They reversed completely the values. And this is a bit of this Melanie Klein psychotic. I call it the Hansel and Gretel Syndrome because ā€œI love you; Iā€™m going to give you this, Iā€™m going to be ethical, we are going to treat you well with the vaccineā€ and theyā€™re killing them. And they have absolutely abrogated ethics research guidelines that we developed in 2006 to 2009, and I was involved in that.

So, all the values are also a PSYOP. They have changed the values and the definition.

Reiner Fuellmich: One thing for certain: this is not about health.

Debbie Evans: Professor Ferguson, if I could just clarify, Professor Ferguson. In 2002, he modelled 50,000 deaths would happen in the UK from mad cow disease. And he modelled it completely incorrectly where we saw the burning of all of our cattle for 150 deaths. So, he was very incorrect. And we were very surprised in the UK when we found out that Neil Ferguson was responsible for the modelling of this pandemic because he was so incorrect in the last one.

He also hit the headlines a number of times and had to resign from his post in SAGE because he was caught breaking lockdown rules. I just wanted to add that about Professor Ferguson.

Reiner Fuellmich: The question is, how come heā€™s still in office?

Debbie Evans: Thatā€™s a really good question, and I canā€™t answer that one, Iā€™m afraid, but he shouldnā€™t be. He shouldnā€™t.

Astrid Stuckelberger:Conflict of interest.

Debbie Evans: Absolutely. He works very closely with Saudi as well. I forgot, Iā€™ll find out the name of, I canā€™t actually read it to pronounce it, but he works very ā€“ Imperial College has the largest alumni of Chinese. When President Xi came on his state visit, the only University that he visited was Imperial. Imperial have huge Chinese ties and theyā€™ve also taken over a number of our hospitals so that we have now an Imperial NHS Trust.

So, Imperial ā€“ I could go on for hours about Imperial and Professor Alice Gast, who is the President of Imperial, who gave a lecture based on 1984, George Orwell 1984. So, thereā€™s an awful lot going on in Imperial and I could do a lot more about an Imperial.

But Professor Ferguson was discredited back in 2002 for mad cow disease. I just wanted to throw that in. Thank you.

Reiner Fuellmich: It is astonishing, indeed, how many people who are completely incompetent at what theyā€™re doing. One of them being the person who runs the EU Commission. She failed at every single job sheā€™s ever held. Itā€™s incredible how many completely incompetent people are kept in office, obviously, by the people who put them there ā€“ those super rich people who somehow seem to be fuelled and kept alive through the City of London and its fifth columns that seem to be everywhere in the world. We will have to take closer looks into all of these occurrences.

Astrid Stuckelberger:I would just add one thing is, we were talking of McKenzie and, von der Leyenā€™s son is working for McKenzie. And the son of Fabius, in France, is working for McKenzie. And, you know, the nepotism.

Virginie de Araujo Recchia: Von der Leyen also has a problem when she was Minister of Defence in Germany, I think.

Reiner Fuellmich: And also, when she was the Secretary of, I think, Families or something like that. She always had problems, but she was always kept in office.

Virginie de Araujo Recchia: And it was already a problem with the Mackenzie contracts.

Reiner Fuellmich: I think McKenzie is a major institution in all of this. Because we have learned from another expert, that Bill Gates is using McKenzie in order to make sure that his advisers become the advisors of ā€“ for example, Ursula von der Leyen ā€“ all the other major political figures. through McKinsey, through the network of McKenzie.

Astrid Stuckelberger:Yeah. Itā€™s amazing that we have exactly the same messages, two years ago, in the shops and in the airports then now. Wash your hands, put the mask, I mean in Europe at least for those who donā€™t have those measures. And itā€™s the same voice. And itā€™s like a marketing agency. So, this also should be analysed if itā€™s the same voice everywhere. And something weird.

Reiner Fuellmich: Weā€™re looking into that as well. But tonight, itā€™s been a very long day. And I know that Dipali needs some sleep, we all do. So, unless there are any more questions that urgently need to be answered I think we should close our session for today. And I really want to thank everyone. This has been extremely valuable. Thank you, Astrid. Thank you, Virginie. Thank you, Silvia. Thank you, Dexter and Ana and Dipali. And, of course, thank you, Debbie. Thank you very much. One big step forward.

Thank you. Bye bye. See you tomorrow.

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